Hi Ken – yes, all of your suggestions sound feasible and fine to me. Thank you! I’m undecided on the p1 vs p2 debate. Sound is still only coming from Rega Planar 1. There appears to be two input sensitivity settings of 520mV (low gain) and 260mV (high gain) – setting to the high gain setting should do the job, but it could be worth trying the low gain setting. Just trying to order now so would be good to get right the first time! Planar 1 Turntable If you're buying your first turntable, the Rega Planar 1 is one of the simplest, most user-friendly options on the market. Hey Paul, I just stumbled upon your article and its comments section – wow, what a goldmine! Glad you’re enjoying the deck! Hi Salih – I looked again at your question and, if you’re using active speakers then the amp is already included within the speakers so you don’t need to buy one. Hi Phil - I'm not joking. Ok so my antiquated hi-fi consists of celestion speakers (£500 at the time), an Audiolab 8000 amp with phono stage and Linn cabling, all around 25 YEARS OLD. If so, which preamp category would you suggest? Also, it seems like improving this setup in a year or two might require significant investment into an amp + passive speakers. Neil. The Audiolab 800 or 8000 I was refering to is my old integrated amp which I want to replace (budget of £250 – £300 max) so the Cambridge AXA35 you suggested is bang on, Thank you. I have just ordered the white Planar 1, and cannot wait for it to arrive. Will get the phono amp or save $$ toward upgrading one day to the Planar 3 or the like upgrade deck. You are looking at £2,000 plus the cost of the Fono but you’ll be getting everything you need, I reckon. It's slick, very user friendly, great build quality. With your system, a Planar 1 is not good enough. Think I’ll give it a try, and if it doesn’t work out (although I think it will), at least it’s a new headamp for other uses! Hi Paul. Again i dont know about Bi-Wiring it seems some people prefer and improves on certain setups but what i have read still not quite sure, Cambridge say they dont offer Bi Wiring on any of their speakers but Q Acoustics must think its worthy to include i guess.. Hi Marc – For this system, price point and technology, I wouldn’t bother with bi-wiring. I’d personally prefer more power in reserve than any of the amps I had on my list. Or just speakers? Can you access those? Also, i suppose the big change will not be brought so much by the change in the amp but by moving from the Planar 1 to the Planar 3. Going back to my amplifier upgrade quest, I had the chance to do a comparative between the Rega Elex and the Elicit at a local dealer some days ago. Then I’d advise upgrading the rest, as and when you can. If you choose to replace the stock Carbon (Paul and I strongly recommend doing this), Rega has made adjusting the anti-skate a royal PITA (pain in the ass). Regarding my CD player, I’ve had a C. Audio Azur 640 V2 for about 12 years now and I feel it’s time for a change (also, the belt is starting to cause problems). Will the Planar 1 pair up well with the NADC368 and MMGi speaker system (with bass panel) and will it be a noticeable upgrade from the Pro-ject RPM 1 Carbon? I have been recommended the Rega Brio but I don’t know to what extent replacing the amp is really indispensable. Reviewed in the United States on October 2, 2018. Hi Yongolini – yep, you’ve got the chain sequence correct there. You’re right, there is conflict in what I said, story of my life . Is your advice to still go with the Rega Planar 1? The Rega Planar 1 comes standard with a Rega Carbon cartridge. Thomas. I’d rather not tell you my exact budget, otherwise you’d just recommend the most expensive Planar that could fit (and you would be right, of course). I didn’t think it was a mutually exclusive option if I didn’t want to forsake quality! Just grab a phono amp and plug that into your speakers directly. Should I continue to upgrade the Planar 1 with a new cartridge (say the Goldring E-3 or a Sumiko Olympia or Moonstone)? Many thanks It’s all very well having a strong bass but if it lacks any sense of the organic then it tends to lose emotion (unless that’s the artist’s intention, of course). A good quality turntable is a must, though. Web: http://www.joenit.com, Thanks for that info on Joenit bvba, Paul, I contacted them. I have a Cyrus 8AVS2 (circa 2007) amplifier and Q-Acoustics 3010i speakers. Hi Paul, As the AM10 already has a pre-phono, I understand that its quality is poor? Hi Paul My sons have bought me the Planar 1 for Christmas knowing that I have a stack of vinyl that has not been played for around 20 years. Before I get there, I’d like to launch a separate YouTube channel – a bit of a ‘talking head’-type advice/issues/help thing, keeping the reviews and the like for the site here. To keep costs down would the P1 work well with that and then I would use my old Bose 601’s. I’ll link him below, should you ever receive the same question from someone. Then you’ll need to hook up a pair of speakers to the amp and you’re off. And yes, I’d upgrade the turntable when you can. To confirm then, the MG10XU is a mixer only and then you run to the Mackie speakers which are both powered? | The order depends on your cash reserves. Hi Paul – I am finding your site very useful and informative. The main thing is to enjoy your music. project pre amp) or active speakers which avoids the need for a phono preamp such as the Roth VA4? Or would you recommend just using a travel adapter? An external phono amplifier is better but, of course, that means more money. I can however see “seconds” 3020is for around £150 on ebay. I did see you reviewed the Rega Brio and i liked it i thought i was pushing budget a bit as upgraded to concepts\stands.. I hesitate to do this to you, though, because you’ve only just bought the Planar 1. You can build a Rega-based system for much less money (and spend around $500 each on the amp and then speakers) and save for a future series of hifi upgrades or you can send the Planar 1 back (if possible, not sure how you’re fixed with that one) get your cash back and start again. Cheers Quilly. Finishing my chin scratching, I decided that Rega is correct to relegate speed changes to belt moving. I’m not sure it’s worth replacing now just the phono preamp (a C. Audio 551P) as I think it will be redundant when I purchase the new amp. If possible I’d like to avoid the Scarlett box. Thing is, you’ve bought your Planar 1 already. After that, I hope to open a service for a sort of subscriber-type approach. I would either go for the Rega Planar 3: https://www.amazon.com/Rega-Turntable-RB303-Tonearm-White/dp/B01H5X471M So, I guess the appropriate question is “Does going from my planar 1, to the Rega as pre amp, through converter cable to shanling and from there to headphones still give me a decent setup?” Would the use of the shanling be compromising my listening experience? * & sorry but actually another question, I see the Riga 2 is available for not a huge amount more second hand (like new for £345), https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01GS9UJAM/sr=1-4/qid=1520905823/ref=olp_product_details?_encoding=UTF8&me=&qid=1520905823&sr=1-4. I want to get the rega planar 1 but i have no idea what would be the best pre-amp, amp, and speakers to go with it. If cash is tight, the Planar 1 is a great buy, but stick with the 3020i to keep the system in some sort of balance then upgrade the turntable later on. You’re really looking at a £700-£800 ‘low’ for the best entry level integrated, to be honest. So, I guess that it is a genuine hybrid desire … if pushed, I’d like to say the single room sound quality … but the internet networking adaptability is important too (I have a fair few quite grown up kids that would like to be able to take advantage of that side too! Hi David – yep, you shouldn’t have any issues with that. Out of curiosity, what would you recommend as an alternative? I just have to look up what i will need to stream with spotify (cause my vinyl collection isn’t that big yet ). I know that your motto is to buy the best you could and, also, “start from the beggining” but maybe with the difference in price between the two I can buy the PLANAR 1 and afford another thing with the difference but I want to make sure that I am not letting the oportunity to buy the PLANAR 2 as I don’t intent to renew the set-up for a long time (and I live in Argentina :)) ): a new Rega Planar 2 for €.480. I wouldn’t recommend them for your hi-fi to be honest but they do a job, that’s true. Hi Ben – Spades and Bananas are a preference choice in attaching the cables to the speakers.They’re the actual plug bits of the cables. Or do I need to buy the Rega fono mini in addition? As the player is Rega I know the size of the original carbon is the same as Elys 2M, but that do not have enough deep bass or wide spectrum if I am right. Brand new, 23mm, higher mass, phenolic platter with improved flywheel effect for improved speed stability. Hi Peter – for a turntable? With that in mind, and not being that averse to a separate phono stage … perhaps buying the above (or maybe a P2) and a separate phone stage would be a better way to go and allow for some upgradeability? A Bias2 is a good idea. I’ve been a journalist and editor for 30 years and still retain my good humour. Now i have a problem that i would like to share with those are in my same situation. Ok im happy with that, i have tested out the muso via blue tooth as awaiting a good optical cable but sounding good for the TV. Congratulations again on the website and the videos on YouTube; they’re really educational and fun to watch as well. From the off, I could tell that the Planar 1 offered a reduced noise environment. The parade of enhancements start with the brand-new RB110 tonearm , built with patent-pending, ultra-low-friction, bespoke zero-play bearings . Would you recommend this one or an alternative with this setup? Q Acoustics 3020 (Speakers) £150. If you can demo them, then I would heartily recommend that before you buy. Hope you have a great time with your system , Hi Paul, I’m looking to upgrade from a basic atlp3 to the Rega Planar 1 and your review is great. I only have one shot, if you will. Was looking to contact you privately. Anyway, if I go the upgrade path, what do you recommend, and in what order? … am I missing a trick or going down the wrong track with the Sonos stuff? I was merely thinking, put a Sonos Connect into one of the spare inputs on the amp/receiver and then the speakers connected to “B” on the receiver could feed the garden. I haven’t heard any reduction in sound quality, but as I’m sure it’s gradual, I may just not be noticing it. Although they are more than 10 years old they still perform pretty well I think. Hi Diego – yes, yes, I don’t see why not. Now to find a friend who needs to upgrade from the Planar 3 to a Planar 6! Iam an ‘old’ LP collector, and recently , tired of all this ‘liquid music’, i would love the joy to listen my collection again. Hi Paul – After bouncing around between different Belgian Rega dealers, I ended up with one near to my hometown of Ghent. As one of the group go for my first setup and I was thinking about this combination, to see what you think. How much are you looking to spend on your streaming kit, by the way? Would I need to align such a cartridge before use or is that going to be plug and play like the default Carbon cartridge on the Planar 1? Think about it, this is a £248-priced turntable. Good stuff – if you have the time, let me know how you get on . At first glance I thought it looked plasticcy but now I’ve taken a closer look, it looks more like a brushed steel which I’m okay with. Tried a bunch of fresh records today, And they all sounded extremely satisfying with good bass mids and treble extensions. They’re not great quality – experimenting in public can be a painful experience! Or is it better to invest in the Elys 2 (alternative 2)? I am curious what you’d recommend purchasing for amp (+phono amp) AND speakers with a budget of £1,800 – £2,200 total all-in? From the installation to the final play, the Rega Planar 1 is not just outstanding, it has actually changed the nature of the market at this level. Considering a similar budget to that mentioned above, but wanting to go to a headphone amp instead of a proper speaker amp… What would you suggest? That will give you a balance with your current Rega. (Only Flac + Kodo software), Hi Paul. Best regards, Hi Paul, I’m rediscovering the vinyl myself and I have been an audiophile for quite some time now. likewise – the small power-pack that powers the REGA appears somewhat ‘cheap. What would you suggest ! If you’re looking at Euros the a Pro-Ject might offer better value and give you more for your money. If you don’t mind Google Imaging ‘Focal Alpha 80’ you’ll be able to see a picture of what they have on the back. Full content visible, double tap to read brief content. So I was basically able to grab a P2 for the same price as I was going to pay for the P1, how about that? Well, that missing thing was a needle (the cartridge... I’m a fairly savvy tech consumer but admittedly new to turntables. (https://www.amazon.co.uk/s?ie=UTF8&me=A17AKBRF4GJ1XD&page=1) It arrives between Thursday and Saturday. that said, I am taking your advice about an external phono pre-amp. Yes, that list looks good. (Patent pending). The problem here is finding equipment that will give you a quality vinyl system and also one that provides quality digital support including streaming. Another advantage compared to my old C. Audio 640 A Azur is that you can listen at low volumes and still get a lot of details and overall musical satisfaction. Nick, Hi Nick – Hmmm The solution I offer is just that, a solution but it’s over budget. Absolutely amazing sound and build quality to the point I think it's a steal for the price. Both are superb but the newer latter deck sounds better than the older former turntable. I’m going to go slightly over your budget but the sound will be nice for it. I will see if I can find a P3 in the price range of £550 because in The Netherlands a P3 costs £715 (€799). The Azur is a good amp, though, if funds are tight. The Mani offers great value for money (the Rega’s good too, though). Final set up is Planar 1 , rega mini Fono MK2 amp , surprise speakers , Steljes Audio NS3’’S ( excellent BTW , remote is sturdy and Bluetooth connectivity) , QED RCA cables to the speakers from the amp and QED oxygen free cables between speakers. But in the end I had to return it because it simply cannot hold a steady pitch. My next dilemma is i need an Amp, im looking for advice as i have also recently bought a new 4k TV and need a set up audio for that, i thought i could maybe use my MuSo via optical cable for this purpose, but im now thinking it might be an idea if i had an amplifier that i could also use the concept 20s for my TV audio also ? So it is not repairable. There was a problem adding this item to Cart. Adding an extension cable will not help sonics. Hi, What you will lose is the best possible sound quality from your vinyl. Not the Shanling that you mentioned elsewhere but the Furutech GT40 is one. No problems with them. That will lower vibration. Worth saving the extra few Euros, I reckon. I know you haven’t yet reviewed this but do you much about it? Instead, when you finish your play, carefully place the detached lid back on the chassis and then remove again and store temporarily before play once more. Yes, a good design. do you mean the Alternative 1? For example a Rega Planar 6 with a Rega Ania Cartridge. In which case you’re looking at around £38. You can find some coverage on this platter in here: https://theaudiophileman.com/modding-turntable-pro-ject-rpm-3/. Ken, Hi Paul, Thanks for your earlier advice. Rega Planar 1+ONKYO-A-9110+Q3020i. Hi Paul – you could have grabbed a Zerostat anti-stat gun which would have decreased the static enough to prevent the sticky mat syndrome. Come back and talk to me then, if you like , Hi Paul, you will recall that I did in the end purchase the Planar 3 to replace my Planar 1 and am very happy with it. Would your comments change if I told you I could get the 6000a amp and the 606 speakers in a package at a £249 discount? Hello again Paul and thanks a lot for taking the time to reply to my questions. I’d probably lean towards the Cambridge but the Onkyo amps are decent quality for the price so, if you have a personal preference…, Does this work? Planar 1 –> Rega Fono Mini phono –> ??? I guess you’re in the USA? Thank you for everything. Please make sure your cables are up to scratch too and you have decent shelving and stands. I’m planning on purchasing the setup you recommend to Will above and I’ll be happy to use your Amazon link to purchase the planar 1. The Planar 1 offered strength and a bass impact that was potent and convincing but always with a sense of the emotional. The pre-installed Carbon is serviceable, but is really kind of a weak link. Yes indeed it does You just need to wait for me to clear it first. Speakers can be these from Q Acoustics at £120: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Acoustics-3020-Bookshelf-Speakers-Graphite/dp/B00TR7I1EY/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1541867529&sr=8-3&keywords=q+acoustic+3020 Is there a big and audible difference between the upgraded Planar 1 and the Planar 3 with the Elys cartridge and is the price difference justified, knowing that the Planar 3 will require an amp upgrade ? If/when you want to upgrade from there, give me a shout. I wanted to provide a specialised service for those who kindly support me so I’m planning a new area – although it might be a while away yet. If it’s not possible than I would probably purchase the slightly lesser quality Marantz PM6006 . Txs a lot in advance. The RP1 is different from the Planar 1. Thank you very much in advance! If you fall out of love later on, then buy a Rega. Andy. great review you’ve convinced me to go for the Planar 1, after i’ve been weighing it up for a few weeks! Then take the cart to your next turntable upgrade. I intend to get this turntable as i want to upgrade from an old Onkyo turntable. Hi Drew – Monitor Audio Bronze 2 speakers are good as are Dali Zensor 3 speakers. Yep, work from the source downwards – I’d advise on the phono amp first, then the new integrated amp. I did look at the Naim Atom before and liked a lot but just too much money all in one hit So although will spend similar money on this setup its split up a little over few months so justifiable haha and would still be additional outlays on the Atom , fono CD player etc Hi Paul – Great article, a fairly glowing review! You can plug in an external phono amp (like the Rega Fono) to support vinyl but the Atom is mainly a digital-oriented box. After reading and thinking about my budget and needs, I think the Rega Planar 1 (not the plus) with the Q acoustic 3020 would suit my listening needs well. Re your list, the speakers are fine but the Rotel, which is a decent amp, is a bit of an overkill at this price point. I’ve also changed my cartridge to an Ortofon 2M Red. That said, to me, it doesn’t matter what the circuitry is inside the amp, the issue is that it’s affected by leeching noise from associated electronics which will mask sound. Get the best you can afford, Jason – it does make a difference. Which infers you have different hi-fi components now. https://www.amazon.co.uk/3-5mm-Phono-Stereo-Audio-Cable-black/dp/B000Q6LSVS“, Great, many thanks for reaching out to them on my behalf. We have a great online selection at the lowest prices with Fast & Free shipping on many items! Be very cautious buying from this seller! Enjoy your music! Thanks again for your reply. Here is my current system (simple but effective at getting me going): Rega Planar 1 turntable, Onkyo A-9010A integrated amp, Wharfedale 10.1 speakers. Any advice for my 400€ tournable? Well, that’s not going to happen for a while! Thermoset, gloss laminated plinth with vastly improved appearance and new ergonomically positioned on/off switch located on the underside. A greeting and sorry for my english. Either that or look towards an external phono amp – do you have an external mode? So after reading countless reviews of how easy set-up was, I really thought that I must have been missing something when I couldn’t get a record to play. Touching the tonearm does actually change the volume of the buzzing which is what made me think it’s not grounded correctly even though it’s meant to be internally or whatever. This drum heavy LP offered gloriously tight, punchy but not dry percussive bass. Now the question. I have a RP1 with an Ortofon 3m red connected to a Rega Fono mini A2D. Or will they do well enough on a piece of furniture? I’d go for a Cambridge Topaz AM10 for £200. Thanks. If not more. There is enough information on this Quick Start card to get you going. Split these tasks into individual requirements to be bought at separate times when funds are plentiful and your price drops per box but if demand that they all be served in one go and the price goes back up. If you see that prospective amp/speakers upgrade costing more than the source, throttle back and reconsider the source itself. I’ve never used these speakers before, Tim. If I was to purchase the Rega Fono Mini A2D, for example, would it be as simple as getting an RCA to female 3.5mm adaptor work, with the RCAs connected to the outputs of the pre-amp and the cable from the speakers into the female socket on the adaptor? Ups, the Classic or the RPM 5.1 are a bit over my budget. What’s your opinion? Yes, turntable! Sort that now and don’t worry about it. This sort of thing is frustrating, I know. Pro-Ject and Audio Technica do sell turntables with the phono amp built in which saves cash (although the sound quality is reduced compared to an external model). Thank you very much for the offer of support. I am looking at either the Rega Brio or the Audiolab 6000a as options. 2) its save to buy a good 1,5 -2 meter extension rca cord? Maybe you could help me as well. The best source possible is what you’re looking for but if it means buying a separate phono amp then free up the cash and get a Planar 1 plus that Fono. Hi Jacob – 220 should be fine. So, I would say, because of your past form with vintage gear, get this rare mint deck and have a ball. Hope you find it of some use. It’s just the amp that’s up in the air. I took it in for repair and was told while this says rega it contained really cheap generic parts. Ideally I’d like to stick to a record player that’s up to £250; £300 max. Hi Neil – yes, it will work well in that system. Can I ask why you use the Yamaha at all? Do yoou have any video of that? Either amp will be fine. Greetings from Darwin in the Top End of Australia. Then have a seperate hifi chain dedicated to vinyl only for now, to include your Brio. An external phono amp is superior than an internal model, by the way, so well wroth the effort. They offer great value if you want a lot of features for not a great deal of cash. 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